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Re: Moral Panics

Postby shadylady » Wed Nov 29, 2017 7:50 pm

Is #metoo movement leading to a rush to judge all men?
This lady is well intentioned, but she gives the false accusers way too much credit and even asserts that we have reached some kind of positive cultural watershed. The one thing she is right about is that our society is in moral panic mode and that there could be an escalation and that accusations could become even more casual than they have already become.
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Re: Moral Panics

Postby cactuspete » Thu Nov 30, 2017 7:14 am

shadylady: False accusers or maybe stretched accusers might be the better way of characterizing those making the accusations. There may have been sexual interaction or casual interaction between the accusers and the accused, but the key is that there is some exaggeration or augmentation taking place to stretch things so that they actually seem inappropriate. Who knows what really happened, but you get a bunch of fame seekers coming forward all at once years after supposed misconduct occurs because they all smell opportunity, not because they were too afraid to come forward earlier.
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Re: Moral Panics

Postby shadylady » Wed Dec 13, 2017 6:41 pm

Tucker: We're moving to standard where accused means guilty
At least one journalist hasn't lost his head while all the others are incapable of saying anything intelligent about this current moral panic!
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Re: Moral Panics

Postby wildrose » Thu Dec 14, 2017 7:14 am

Could it be that we are in the midst of two full-fledged moral panics at the same time? Between the McCarthy 2.0 thing with Russia and this latest ME TOO bandwagon, it would seem that the media is hyping two conspiracy theories or moral panics simultaneiously. Is it all about ratings or do average citizens really care? Most of the reactions I get are skepticism about both movements with a lot of eyerolls thrown in for good measure. So, maybe neither are real moral panics and they're both really just manufactured moral panics.
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Re: Moral Panics

Postby sandman » Thu Feb 01, 2018 7:13 am

wildrose: Maybe the media-manufactured movements should be called fake news panics or something like that. The general public may not take any of it seriously, but the media hypes it to get every ounce of sensational fake news out of it that it can. It's more like destraction than news at the end of the day and so we all remain horribly uninformed unless we take the initiative to dig deeper.
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Re: Moral Panics

Postby shadylady » Sat Feb 03, 2018 9:13 am

sandman wrote:wildrose: Maybe the media-manufactured movements should be called fake news panics or something like that. The general public may not take any of it seriously, but the media hypes it to get every ounce of sensational fake news out of it that it can. It's more like distraction than news at the end of the day and so we all remain horribly uninformed unless we take the initiative to dig deeper.

Yes, it's like a circus: some people participate, some watch, and some just ignore it. It's hard to say how much influence media-manufactured moral panics and social movements have on the beliefs of everyday people. I'm sure it varies a lot, but the media has a lot of power and so I'd think twice in order to avoid underestimating the total impact.
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Re: Moral Panics

Postby shadylady » Sat Feb 03, 2018 10:08 am

Jordan B Peterson: The Story of the Satanic Daycare Panic of the 1980s
Spot on explanation of how the SRA Moral Panic of the 1980s was spawned. Excellent book recommendation also.
SATAN'S SILENCE: https://www.amazon.com/Satans-Silence-Ritual-Making-American/dp/0595189555/
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Re: Moral Panics

Postby shadylady » Sun May 06, 2018 8:01 am

Liberal America’s unhealthy fixation on Russia
It's ridiculous to think that Russia had so much influence on the election or anything in the USA, but hysterical over-reactions tend to warp reality so that small things seem significant and large things seem like no big deal.
Today’s Russia is a minnow by comparison. It offers no ideological challenge to democracy — and its economy is smaller than Italy’s. Yet liberal America has worked itself up into a moral panic. If it were not for Vladimir Putin, we are asked to believe, western democracy would be in reasonable shape. Without Russia, there would be no Donald Trump.

LINK: https://www.ft.com/content/1f8601f8-d9e3-11e7-a039-c64b1c09b482
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Re: Moral Panics

Postby ergot » Tue Jun 05, 2018 9:37 pm

shadylady wrote:Liberal America’s unhealthy fixation on Russia
It's ridiculous to think that Russia had so much influence on the election or anything in the USA, but hysterical over-reactions tend to warp reality so that small things seem significant and large things seem like no big deal.
Today’s Russia is a minnow by comparison. It offers no ideological challenge to democracy — and its economy is smaller than Italy’s. Yet liberal America has worked itself up into a moral panic. If it were not for Vladimir Putin, we are asked to believe, western democracy would be in reasonable shape. Without Russia, there would be no Donald Trump.

LINK: https://www.ft.com/content/1f8601f8-d9e3-11e7-a039-c64b1c09b482

There's no doubt that Israel had a lot more of an effect on the election than did Russia. In fact, Russia might not have even been in the top five foreign countries that had an effect on the election. It's just that for some reason libtards got fixated on Russia... kind of like conservatards got fixated on Russia in the 1950s. Tards are tards regardless of their political affiliation!
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Re: Moral Panics

Postby a2z » Mon Aug 20, 2018 8:35 pm

ergot wrote:
shadylady wrote:Liberal America’s unhealthy fixation on Russia
It's ridiculous to think that Russia had so much influence on the election or anything in the USA, but hysterical over-reactions tend to warp reality so that small things seem significant and large things seem like no big deal.
Today’s Russia is a minnow by comparison. It offers no ideological challenge to democracy — and its economy is smaller than Italy’s. Yet liberal America has worked itself up into a moral panic. If it were not for Vladimir Putin, we are asked to believe, western democracy would be in reasonable shape. Without Russia, there would be no Donald Trump.

LINK: https://www.ft.com/content/1f8601f8-d9e3-11e7-a039-c64b1c09b482

There's no doubt that Israel had a lot more of an effect on the election than did Russia. In fact, Russia might not have even been in the top five foreign countries that had an effect on the election. It's just that for some reason libtards got fixated on Russia... kind of like conservatards got fixated on Russia in the 1950s. Tards are tards regardless of their political affiliation!

ergot: The point you make here (June 05, 2018) is pretty much exactly the point that Chomsky made in a recent interview (August 2018). Anyone who wants to verify this should check out the Russian Hackers or Lame Excuses thread and see the video ergot posted there today.
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