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Re: Sexual Grievance Industry

Postby James Sel » Tue Jul 07, 2015 8:18 pm

MojaveMike wrote:A lot is being made over this deposition from 2005. Bill Cosby admitted to furnishing drugs to women, but he did not say that he had drugged them into unconsciousness so that he could rape them. The news media is making it sound like he admitted to much more than is actually the case. I know that they like to sensationalize things, but I think quite a few pundits are exaggerating more than a little the significance of this transcript.

I've observed the same. The same media made him out to be a saint in the past. It's the old story of the higher they fly the further they fall. :rasp:
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Re: Sexual Grievance Industry

Postby mrgreen » Tue Jul 07, 2015 8:25 pm

James Sel wrote:
MojaveMike wrote:A lot is being made over this deposition from 2005. Bill Cosby admitted to furnishing drugs to women, but he did not say that he had drugged them into unconsciousness so that he could rape them. The news media is making it sound like he admitted to much more than is actually the case. I know that they like to sensationalize things, but I think quite a few pundits are exaggerating more than a little the significance of this transcript.

I've observed the same. The same media made him out to be a saint in the past. It's the old story of the higher they fly the further they fall. :rasp:

The Micheal Jackson thing was like that too. Before all the accusations he was thought of as a great guy who looked out for the welfare of kids and then there were the accusations about child molestation and after that he became kind of a joke. A lot of people still like his music, but most people think he was more than just simply eccentric, if you know what I mean.
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Re: Sexual Grievance Industry

Postby cactuspete » Thu Jul 16, 2015 7:01 am

President Obama Takes On Bill Cosby Allegations
The important thing to keep in mind is that Mr. Cosby did not say that he had ever drugged a woman to render her incapacitated so that he could take sexual advantage of her. Like Mr. Obama said, that would be rape. It has never been shown in a court of law that Mr. Cosby ever raped anyone. Nor did he admit to anything approaching rape in the deposition. What we have are a bunch of halfwits who are so eager to demonize Cosby that they stretch the meaning of words to mean something that they want them to mean, thus defying logic and reason in the process.
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Re: Sexual Grievance Industry

Postby desertrat » Fri Jul 17, 2015 6:55 am

Cosby Confession: I Drugged Women For SEX
Despite the misleading headline, Cosby NEVER said he drugged women for sex. He said he gave them drugs for sex and that they took the drugs willingly. Many people take drugs to enhance the sex experience and it sounds like that's what Cosby says was the case. Here's a comment left by a viewer of the video, who scolds Ana for lack of journalistic integrity:
He gave women drugs FOR sex. He didn't say he drugged the women for sex. For fuck sake, Ana. If he said he drugged women for sex he'd be in jail for raping someone. Journalistic integrity? Oh yeah, that's right, you're not a journalist. And no, I'm not supporting Cosby, I'd say he did it, but don't misconstrue his words.

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Re: Sexual Grievance Industry

Postby shadylady » Sun Jul 19, 2015 6:51 am

Portions of Bill Cosby Deposition Published :smack:
So many news sources have misreported what was said in the deposition as evidence that Cosby raped women. Anyone who read the excerpts published a week or so ago knew that he never made any such statements. It could be that the apparent misinterpretation was due to wishful thinking or willful misrepresentation of the facts, but either way you'd expect more out of people who work as journalists.
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Re: Sexual Grievance Industry

Postby wildrose » Mon Jul 20, 2015 6:50 am

Reviewing Bill Cosby's Own Words in Released Deposition Excerpts
It almost seems as if the news industry intentionally misinterpreted statements made by Cosby in the 2005 deposition so that they could prolong the newsworthy nature of the situation. By at first misinterpreting the statements they could then pretend to clarify what was said as we see in this clip, thus making the story last that much longer. It almost seems that the Rolling Stone college rape fiasco followed this same pattern. Step one provide misinformation and misleading details. Step Two clean up the mess and pretend to be the good guy setting the story straight. This may become something we see more of. It's kind of like a good cop/bad cop game only it's good reporter/bad reporter. Holding the attention of the public is key to selling the news and I'm convinced there's a lot of manipulation of information behind the scenes to grab the public's attention. Intentional misreporting of facts may seem unprofessional to the naive viewer, but the reality is that it has become part of the profession, thus setting up a bigger news bubble around a story.
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Re: Sexual Grievance Industry

Postby mrgreen » Thu Jul 23, 2015 8:13 pm

Cosby Goes on the Offensive
When a bunch of people make up accusations and try to all jump on the money train the best thing you can do is go on the offensive and start shredding their half-assed stories to pieces. Cosby should have never paid out a settlement in the past to keep the story quiet. Once others find out there's money to be made, they all start blowing petty grievances out of proportion and pretty soon they convince themselves that they were seriously wronged. It's funny how money has a way of doing that to people.
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Re: Sexual Grievance Industry

Postby cactuspete » Thu Jul 30, 2015 6:57 am

Donald Trump at the Center of New Controversy Over Rape Comments
This is just another example of how stupid the media is when it talks about sexual grievances. Apparently Trump's lawyer (Michael Cohen) said something to the effect of “by definition you can’t rape your spouse” back when Trump was divorcing his ex-wife (Ivana). This was in the late 1980s and most likely the statement was true at that point.
1993: All fifty states have revised laws to include marital rape.
SOURCE: https://solidarity-us.org/node/370

Applying current standards to events which happened decades ago is incredibly stupid. We see something similar with the Cosby case. Legally you can't make a law and then charge someone for something that happened before the law was made. The same standard should be applied to criticizing the behavior of individuals.

ex post facto law definition. A law that makes illegal an act that was legal when committed, increases the penalties for an infraction after it has been committed, or changes the rules of evidence to make conviction easier. The Constitution prohibits the making of ex post facto law.
SOURCE: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/ex+post+facto+law
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Re: Sexual Grievance Industry

Postby shadylady » Sun Aug 02, 2015 6:35 am

Bill Cosby's Lawyer Addresses Rape Allegations
This lady does a great job of standing her ground and providing strong defense for Bill Cosby. She clears up the record and separates the media hype from the facts. The large number of accusers is overblown by the media. She talks about "the clumping" and clarifies the differences between the claims made by different women and strongly suggests that most of their stories would crumble if they were forced to testify under oath in a court of law.
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Re: Sexual Grievance Industry

Postby mrgreen » Mon Aug 17, 2015 8:09 pm

10 False Rape Accusations
False accusations are pretty common, but the sexual grievance industry works over time to put out misinformation to the contrary. TheAmazingAtheist is one of the few people on YouTube with the integrity to stand up to the BS.
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