Russian Hackers or Lame Excuses?

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Re: Russian Hackers or Lame Excuses?

Postby mrgreen » Thu Feb 08, 2018 8:15 pm

The Russian Bots Are Coming!
When sensible people oppose candidates and policy that the DNC endorses, the DNC claims that the opposition is composed not of real people, but of bots working for the Kremlin. What an easy and convenient way to marginalize REAL OPPOSITION!
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Re: Russian Hackers or Lame Excuses?

Postby pcslim » Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:15 am

Russia Moves Toward Creation Of An Independent Internet
There are several implications that can be drawn from this report. Most obviously, I think that although the Russia Hacker story is an excuse used by the Hillary campaign to explain her loss, the real reason for the fake news story is more insidious. Security agencies of the USA are the most prolific group of hackers in the world. Their exploits far exceed all other groups combined. By pointing fingers at others they both hide and provide justification for their own activities. Other countries are scrambling to develop ways of protecting themselves from our security agencies.
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Re: Russian Hackers or Lame Excuses?

Postby cactuspete » Sun Feb 11, 2018 8:12 am

Report: Spies met to talk hacking tools, Trump
The take away here is that HACKING TOOLS were allegedly STOLEN FROM THE NSA. The NSA is supposed to be our most advanced and most secure and tech savvy security agency. If hacking tools can be stolen from them, then it is fair to conclude that the NSA was out-maneuvered by another group of hackers. Based on this report it sounds like these hackers were not affiliated with any government and that RUSSIA WAS ACTUALLY HELPING THE NSA to figure out who stole the hacking tools. This does not exactly support the Russian Hacker narrative that we've been subjected to since 2016 and it doesn't exactly increase confidence in the abilities of our most advanced security agency and hence any claims they make become even more subject to doubt.
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Re: Russian Hackers or Lame Excuses?

Postby mrfish » Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:50 am

Clint Watts: 'Release The Memo' Is A Home Run For Russians
The Russians don't have to manufacture falsehoods.
They can just repeat what Americans are saying about each other.

This has been true for the past several years, going back way before the elections in 2016. That's why this whole Russian hackers story has only seemed convincing to the egregiously uninformed. As for Russian bots, American bots out-number them ten-to-one. And the whole concept of information war is something that our CIA and NSA has engaged in for many decades. The Russians are several steps behind our own goon squad.
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Re: Russian Hackers or Lame Excuses?

Postby mrgreen » Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:53 am

mrfish wrote:Clint Watts: 'Release The Memo' Is A Home Run For Russians
The Russians don't have to manufacture falsehoods.
They can just repeat what Americans are saying about each other.

This has been true for the past several years, going back way before the elections in 2016. That's why this whole Russian hackers story has only seemed convincing to the egregiously uninformed. As for Russian bots, American bots out-number them ten-to-one. And the whole concept of information war is something that our CIA and NSA has engaged in for many decades. The Russians are several steps behind our own goon squad.

It's common for our media to make claims about Russian media being controlled by the Kremlin, but the truth is...
Noam Chomsky wrote:Any dictator would admire the uniformity and obedience of the U.S. media.
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Re: Russian Hackers or Lame Excuses?

Postby mrgreen » Fri Feb 16, 2018 7:14 pm

13 Russian nationals indicted for allegedly meddling in the 2016 election
More weak sauce being spun to support the Russian hacker hoax. Someone is truly desperate to be making such a big deal over such an insignificant story. It looks more than ever like the Russian hackers hoax is a cover up for something bigger. Considering the way our government instigated the coup in Ukraine, it would be inconceivable that a foreign government could ever do anything to top that.
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Re: Russian Hackers or Lame Excuses?

Postby Sparky of SoCal » Sat Feb 17, 2018 7:09 am

After all this time and money that's all they got. Some folks think it is unpatriotic to question or criticize the FBI. They are a mess, even if most rank and file are trying and doing their best. Maybe the shooting in Florida could have been prevented if there was less resources and money trying to do the liberal state dirty work.
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Re: Russian Hackers or Lame Excuses?

Postby mrfish » Sat Feb 17, 2018 7:55 am

Sparky of SoCal wrote:After all this time and money that's all they got. Some folks think it is unpatriotic to question or criticize the FBI. They are a mess, even if most rank and file are trying and doing their best. Maybe the shooting in Florida could have been prevented if there was less resources and money trying to do the liberal state dirty work.

EXACTLY!!! :curse:
Instead of whining about gun control (which is not the problem), maybe complaining about misuse of federal resources to propagate the Russian hacker hoax would make a lot more sense! If the the attention and resources of the FBI were not being diverted by a mere hoax, they would have been able to respond more effectively to the information they had received. So, liberals should stop wasting our time with this Russian hacker hoax, accept that Hillary lost the election, and allow the country to move forward!
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Re: Russian Hackers or Lame Excuses?

Postby desertrat » Sat Feb 17, 2018 8:44 am

Tucker: Here's what seems true about Russia indictments
Compared to all the ways that the USA interferes in the affairs of other countries, this seems so infinitesimally insignificant that it seems silly to even discuss it. On top of that, there's no evidence that the Russian government was even involved!
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Re: Russian Hackers or Lame Excuses?

Postby MojaveMike » Sat Feb 17, 2018 10:27 am

The lesson to be learned here is that if everybody had listened to Trump and allowed the so-called Russian Hacker investigation to be closed a year ago, the FBI would have had more investigators free to follow up on the Nikolas Cruz social media postings. The democrats should take the blame for wasting FBI time and resources and for creating a situation where deaths that could have been prevented were not prevented!
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