Russian Hackers or Lame Excuses?

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Re: Russian Hackers or Lame Excuses?

Postby ergot » Thu Aug 02, 2018 6:19 am

'More Memes, Less News!' - Russia information warfare in a nutshell... according to US senators
Exposing the lies told by corporate media is not a crime. Generally people eventually recognize truth and reject lies. Corporate media wants to keep selling lies even after they've been exposed. They double down and keep pushing the Russia Hacker Hoax instead of reforming their ways and switching to telling the truth. Apparently there's a hidden agenda...
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Re: Russian Hackers or Lame Excuses?

Postby surfsteve » Fri Aug 03, 2018 4:46 am

OK so it's not the Russians but it's close...

Trump colludes with Rush
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Re: Russian Hackers or Lame Excuses?

Postby recluse » Fri Aug 03, 2018 10:05 pm

Rush must be the hidden link...
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Re: Russian Hackers or Lame Excuses?

Postby a2z » Sat Aug 04, 2018 8:28 pm

Wait For Evidence Before You Make Up Your Mind On Russia
Fact free indictments is all we have so far. No evidence, but lots of accusations. Lots of good points made in this clip!
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Re: Russian Hackers or Lame Excuses?

Postby mrgreen » Sun Aug 05, 2018 8:11 pm

Rachel Maddow: All Russia. All The Time.
It's ironic, but Madcow with her obsession over Russia is actually helping Trump.
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Re: Russian Hackers or Lame Excuses?

Postby Sparky of SoCal » Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:26 am

CNN has the same issue. Get off the Russia deal and start beating the GOP up on health care. That would actually to the country good getting that back on the front burner. Don't care what side you are on.
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Re: Russian Hackers or Lame Excuses?

Postby mrgreen » Sun Aug 12, 2018 8:30 pm

Author of 'The Russia Hoax' joins The Next Revolution
No need to buy the book. Everything you need to know is in this thread. We've documented the whole thing!
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Re: Russian Hackers or Lame Excuses?

Postby a2z » Mon Aug 13, 2018 8:32 pm

Ex-WH liaison: Kids hacked mock election sites
In the past CNN has reported that breaking into the DNC server required super-hacker abilities. In this little news clip they show that even an eleven year old kid could have done it. It's either one extreme or the other for them. The truth is that the DNC hack (whoever did it) did not require much sophistication or skill. However, we also know that the leaked emails were not the result of this type of hack. The info was leaked from inside the DNC and the Seth Rich theory is still the most viable theory, although it is likely that it was someone else and that he was just the guy who got blamed (and murdered).

Further it is stated that Russia interfered with an election in the Ukraine. Actually what happened was that the USA and Israel were the ones who interfered and Russia simply monitored the activities of our and Israel's intelligence agencies... catching them red-handed... btw...
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Re: Russian Hackers or Lame Excuses?

Postby a2z » Mon Aug 13, 2018 8:54 pm

His part-time job is Russian troll hunter - Sponsored by Jack Ryan
Lots to debunk here:
1) Disinformation comes from lots of sources (not just Russia) and most of it is done for the LULZ (think 4chan).
2) Internet Research Agency - This is an organization in Russia, but the media completely misrepresents what they do. The truth is that they probe social media systems in an attempt to decipher and analyze the underlying algorithms used by these companies. They aren't trying to misinform anyone. All they are doing is trying to understand how trends develop and why some memes, videos, etc. become popular and some don't. In part they're trying to expose the way companies create system that favors certain types of content over others. (The irony here is that CNN has put out a lot of disinformation about the Internet Research Agency, whether they realize it or not.)
3) The Internet Research Agency is not actually "linked" to the Kremlin. They are actually part of a computer science and political science research project under joint control of several universities in Russia.
4) The Internet Research Agency does not attempt to "sow discord" and the amount of content they create is not nearly sufficient to have much influence at all. More importantly when it comes to behavior which could be loosely be called "trolling" they are very small players in that field. Again, think 4chan, but keep in mind that 4chan is just the tip of the iceberg.
5) The claim that the Russians played both sides against each other is pure misinformation. Although some of the messages which circulated came from trolls from all around the world (mostly for the LULZ), most were sent by involved participants.
6) The guy may have simply misspoken, but he seems to confuse trolls with bots. The bigger problem is that it appears that this guy may report accounts as bot accounts simply because he doesn't like what they're saying. In other words, he seems to assume that anyone who spreads messages that he doesn't like must be a bot. He then makes the appropriate contacts to get those accounts suspended under the false pretext that they are bot accounts.
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Re: Russian Hackers or Lame Excuses?

Postby ergot » Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:32 pm

Chomsky: Israel Meddles In US Elections Far More Than Russia
Israel has been a problem for a long time. It's the white elephant in the room that no one feels safe talking about.
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